highlighting searched words

[janrif]

There's a thread somewhere on this subject which has gone back & forth.

Kinook took the position that it doesn't help in the searching a document & offered a 3rd party program which works in any program to find/highlight any word quickly & efficiently (it does).

But I found Kinook's argument a bit ironic considering that searching the help file seems to highlight the search criteria in the display page

Presumably highighting is a help in the help files so it's helpful there why shouldn't it be a help in plain searching of a document?

[quant]

Originally posted by janrif
But I found Kinook's argument a bit ironic considering that searching the help file seems to highlight the search criteria in the display page

Presumably highighting is a help in the help files so it's helpful there why shouldn't it be a help in plain searching of a document?

That is a standard windows help file format with "chm" extension and its features, and has nothing to do with UR functionality, UltraRecall.chm

[janrif]

Originally posted by quant
That is a standard windows help file format with "chm" extension and its features, and has nothing to do with UR functionality, UltraRecall.chm Bet that as it may, it does not change the fact that highlighting is used extensively in the help file.

[quant]

Originally posted by janrif
Bet that as it may, it does not change the fact that highlighting is used extensively in the help file.

(sorry, english is not my mother language, I dont know what you mean by the above sentence :) )

Just to add, that I'd welcome the highlighting feature as well!

[janrif]

Originally posted by quant
(sorry, english is not my mother language, I dont know what you mean by the above sentence :) )

Just to add, that I'd welcome the highlighting feature as well! No problem & your English is fine. What it means is that even though what you say is true, it does not change the fact that highlighting is part of the help system that kinook selected to help users. So if it is in help system, there is more reason to argue that highlighting will help users in other areas of the program. Hope this helps explain my short sentence.

[nisced]

Jan,

I support your request.

I think it should be possible to add this feature because UR provides the Find functionality on single page (Ctrl+F). If you use this feature then UR highlights the matching words in the text.

You have to enter the search term twice with the current functionality. The first for the search on the database and the second in a choosen item for the text with the mentioned Ctrl+F. It is ok for me but a direct highlight would be much more helpful.

Dominik

[Daly de Gagne]

Originally posted by nisced
Jan,

I support your request.

I think it should be possible to add this feature because UR provides the Find functionality on single page (Ctrl+F). If you use this feature then UR highlights the matching words in the text.

You have to enter the search term twice with the current functionality. The first for the search on the database and the second in a choosen item for the text with the mentioned Ctrl+F. It is ok for me but a direct highlight would be much more helpful.

Dominik

Being able to have search terms highlight is of great advantage, especially in long documents.

Presumably one of the arguments for using computers is to save time -- highlighted search terms is a great time saver and, therefore, ought reasonably to be expected to be part of information programs.

Daly

[janrif]

Originally posted by nisced
Jan, I support your request. [snip] You have to enter the search term twice with the current functionality. The first for the search on the database and the second in a choosen item for the text with the mentioned Ctrl+F. [snip] Dominik
Hopefully Kinook will see the logic of this request. I can think of other things I'd rather see first but this would certainly be an useful addition to a sophisticated program.

[eno]

Me too, I have asked for it before, have managed without it but would make things a whole lot easier if it could be done in one go.

[$bill]

I don't want my keyword searches automatically highlighted for me. My searches are most often to find a document not the keyword.
In applications that do this - I find the highlighted words too distracting when I read and a problem when I want to copy to another document or email.


Possibilities - a check box in 'Find in items' to highlight all or check box in search to highlight keywords.

[janrif]

Originally posted by $bill
I find the highlighted words too distracting Possibilities - a check box in 'Find in items' to highlight all or check box in search to highlight keywords. I think this is a good idea as not everyone uses UR the same way; one of the beauties of a program like URp.

[UR user]

If you use IE as your brower, then a little free program called Handyfind allows you to find/highlight terms in any IE or even rtf/doc page. This works beautifully inside UR.

Google the name to find it.

[janrif]

Originally posted by UR user
If you use IE as your brower, then a little free program called Handyfind allows you to find/highlight terms in any IE or even rtf/doc page. This works beautifully inside UR.[snip] I have it & you are right. One can always find a 3rd party utility to do something. But why load in one more program than necessary. Even Windows Help (used in URp) has an option to hightlight or not. I don't think it should be a big deal as long as it's an option as not everyone searches the same way.

[dspady]

I want to resurrect what seems to be a dead horse.
I think that highlighting of a search term is a necessary and desirable attribute of any modern information manager. Maybe some will want to turn off that feature, but it SHOULD be there. My reading of this thread did not show up any comment by Kinook as to why we can't have a highlighting feature. If there is no good reason why we cannot have such a feature--built in to UR--then why is it not there?
MyInfo has had it for years.

[quant]

it's already on the (not updated) roadmap ...

[dspady]

Well, then let us not reduce the speed limit (at least for this, cars are a different thing.)

Don

[Resurgam]

The lack of this facility (highlighting search terms) is the main reason that I continue to use programs such as askSam. For long documents, or documents containing a great deal of text, it is so much easier to have the search term highlighted, and I do not see why searching should be a two-stage operation.

Regards, Geoffrey

[quant]

Originally posted by Resurgam
I do not see why searching should be a two-stage operation.
I think it's not so straightforward with UR, because unlike most of the other PIMs, UR has item notes and item attributes, so I think there is a problem of how to display the results ... this is the price we pay for great database features that UR offers

[Resurgam]

I wasn't seeking to deride UR, which I have been using since version 1 and which in virtually all other respects is close to being a perfect information manager. But this particular lack of functionality has been a constant niggle. Even the facility to highlight search terms in the main body (rather than item notes or attributes) would be a great step forward.

[dspady]

I agree. Notes and attributes are nice, but the main text box is the meat of the program, where a great deal of work is done, and where I want to do 90+% of my searching.
Lack of highlighting is a significant drawback to UR.

Don

[eno]

I asked for it in

http://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2150&highlight=eno

It would be good to have highlighting without using another program to do it (Handyfind)

[tfjern]

Why in heaven's name is this issue even being debated? Of course the hits found in searches should be highlighted. Kinook knows this, and I'm sure will include it in future upgrades as soon as their programmers work out the kinks.

One reason I abandoned AskSam 6.0 was this: it highlighted the hits, but it only gave the number of hits per document, and not overall (why not both?).

Future upgrades of UR should include 1) highlighting of hits (that can be toggled off and on, of course), and 2) numbering of total hits per database.

Also, and this has been discussed before in other threads, but is worth repeating here: global searching across databases. This is another obviously useful feature, though some members of this forum, inveterate contrarians it seems, will feel obliged to disagree.

[quant]

Originally posted by tfjern
One reason I abandoned AskSam 6.0 was this: it highlighted the hits, but it only gave the number of hits per document, and not overall (why not both?).
We badly need the number of hits per item, which could be the least primitive indicator of "relevance", if we are able to sort by this. I asked for this few times in one thread, but nobody here seemed to be interested. This was to my big surprise, and also reason why I use external program for searching and only link files to UR :(