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quant
11-13-2007, 04:09 PM
I already suggested several times that UR could be used as a Mind Mapping tool (http://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=11734#post11734 ), the only missing thing is a presentation layer

Just before a while, I found a very cool 3D network browser. It seems that it can be embedded in browser, which UR already has. I don't know the technicalities it would involve, for the time being I'd be interested how users would like sth like that.

Go to http://morcego.arca.ime.usp.br/tiki-index.php
and rotate the graph in 3D (left click, hold and move mouse), change the node by clicking on it. I think this would be so cool in UR, it would blow both ConnectedText and TheBrain navigation ...

janrif
11-13-2007, 04:51 PM
Yes !!

Quantum7
11-14-2007, 09:40 AM
Are you suggesting we can use this to add content to UR / view existing elements in a graphical way? I.e. adding a note to element A in the 3D overview, would actually create a child beneath element A in the browser? Inserting an existing item would create a logical link? Etcetera.

If so, that sounds pretty useful, as it would integrate tightly with the existing data structure of UR and would simply be a very graphical way in which to view / manage the data (powerful).

If you're talking about purely mind manager functionality (without any relation to the data in UR) then No (as there are enough other tools to do that better).

quant
11-14-2007, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by Quantum7
Are you suggesting we can use this to add content to UR / view existing elements in a graphical way? I.e. adding a note to element A in the 3D overview, would actually create a child beneath element A in the browser? Inserting an existing item would create a logical link? Etcetera.

If so, that sounds pretty useful, as it would integrate tightly with the existing data structure of UR and would simply be a very graphical way in which to view / manage the data (powerful).
basically another view of the Data explorer tree. I'm sure you are aware that you are able to logically link items, in which case the item has more than one parent. Thus the "Data explorer tree" is actually no longer a TREE because it contains cycle. This means that Data explorer tree cannot display the structure UR allows you to create. What we have, is a GRAPH. Now the question is how to display it. There are many ways to do it in 2D, and I already gave suggestions on this subject several times ;-)

http://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2683
http://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2701
http://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2650

The example in this thread is in fact 3D which is even better, because having another dimension allows better graph layout

Originally posted by Quantum7
If you're talking about purely mind manager functionality (without any relation to the data in UR) then No (as there are enough other tools to do that better).
What is a mind manager functionality? I tried several such programs, all they do is display a graph and you can choose several layouts, choose colors, bla bla bla.
Of course this suggestion is with respect to data that are in UR. Imagine I'm going to brainstorm some idea. I create an item in UR and hoist it. This will become the root item, the main idea. Then I just carry on adding items as so on ... bingo ... I have a nice mind map inside UR with all its powerful features and cool graphical representation in 3D :)

All this is about is just a proper graphical representation of the structure in UR. The "mind mapping" thing is just a good excuse for bringing up this subject again ;-)
But being executed properly, I think UR could easily be very competent on the "Mind Mapping" market ...

quant
11-15-2007, 10:49 AM
Just an example of one mind mapping software, which normally costs $300, offered at the moment at $200 (and today at Bits du Jour for $100), and apart from several layouts of tree and quite good export, doesn't do anything that UR couldn't do easily.
http://www.xmind.org/us/features.html

Now imagine that the data explorer tree in UR can have several layouts associated with it ...