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Old 05-19-2007, 12:54 PM
janrif janrif is offline
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Originally posted by wordmuse
[snip] Imagine a grocery list. I wouldn't want to create that as any kind of hierarchy. Just a list. But next to each item, as I picked the item up, I'd click the checkbox and it would be understood as complete. I could print it off and give it to my son and tell him to go to the next store and pick up the remaining items. No messing with multiple items; just a single one.[/snip] OK - maybe URP isn't the right tool for this. [/snip]
Well, yes & no. Probably 'no' if you want graphic boxes next to each line in a single document, boxes like those available w keywords -- a very nice touch, to be sure. But I tend to agree w Quant about priorities for URp.

At some point, IMO, no matter how open the architecture is within a program, the user's creativity emerges as s/he tries to force the program to do what the user wants it to do. To do that you have to first think inside the program, rather than outside the program.

So.... in the case of URp, I think one effective & probably obvious way to create something useful, albeit simple like a grocery list can be created URp style with some advantages over a simple list on a single sheet.

I'm sure you know how to do this but I'm going to go thru it anyway.

Were it me, I would do the following:

-> Create a folder call "Groceries"

-> Add a reminder attribute, recurring weekly for my shopping day

-> Create a text form for it that might include information like Grocery Store, Item Unit Price, maybe food type, i.e. veggie, meat, dairy, etc.

-> For every grocery item I would create a child of the Grocery folder & fill in the form information (above)

-> Just for kicks I might also give each item a keyword = "grocery" or "grocery list" or "food"

-> Since flags are available in the outline (no boxes), I might rename the flags as I saw fit to be useful, keeping in mind that each flag changes the font color as well.

-> Print out the items grid from the grocery list & work from that.

-> Each week if the prices went up or some alternate product appeared, keep track of it in the details page.

-> As each item is purchased, Flag it completed.

-> Those left over could be flagged as pending.

-> If I didn't want to print out all the items, I would pre-define a search in this folder for flag = pending which would only produce a list of items that hadn't been purchased.

Otherwise from the same list I could say:

"Here, son, buy those items that are blue (pick a color). Don't come home w/o them."

-> Finally I would dismiss the grocery list only to have it pop up automatically a week later. Select group & clear all flags. Print list & start again.

Doing it in a URp way gives me alternatives I wouldn't have w a single document list. While a bit of the front end (Ex: creating a form) might be slightly more time consuming, it's only done once.

- The grocery list never has to be retyped.
- All pending items are marked w one click.
- You can keep track of prices & other details
- If you want to alternate items from week to week, it would be easy to flag & print them that way, i.e. week 1, filter for "green" flagged items, week 2 filter for "purple" flagged items, etc.
- If you shop for grocereries in different stores, ie. produce @ the Farmer's Market & other goods @ the local grocery, the list could be divided that way, too

Anyway, that's thinking the URp way.

Alternatively, you can type your grocery list externally in excel or word & just sync the file to URp, rather than have the contents in URp

Just my .02.
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