Navigation advice sought

[StephenUK]

I am new to UR and finding navigation a little difficult having been used to outliners, Info Select, etc.

First - in a long list of siblings, moving a sibling to a substantially different ranking in the list seems difficult. One can use the up or down arrow (or shortcuts) but that is tedious over a long list. Cutting and pasting is not easy, because when pasting at a given point, the sibling then become a child. Dragging and dropping also demotes the sibling to a child. Is there a way to insert the sibling at a given point without it being demoted to child?

Second - having indented a sibling (made it the child of the sibling above), then some time later promoting the child back to a sibling leads to the item being respositioned at the bottom of the list. This is infuriating in a long list. I see there was a post on this last year. Is there perhaps a solution to this now?

My own view is that the nearer the behaviour of a tree approximates to the behaviour of a typical outliner, then the more intuitive and useful it will be.

Maybe I am missing something?

StephenUK

[kinook]

To move item(s) a long distance vertically, keeping as a sibling, press Shift while dragging up or down within the siblings.
http://www.kinook.com/UR/Manual/drag...ltrarecall.htm

The request at http://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthre...?threadid=1262 to maintain the original location (vertically) when moving left or right in a manually ordered list has not been implemented yet (although the option for manual sort default has been [uncheck Tools | Options | Trees | Alphabetically sort when adding children to new items]).