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Old 05-20-2011, 10:16 AM
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Locked Tabs

For locked tabs, I would like two sub-options:

1. Invert the normal Ctrl-Click behavior, so a regular click would open the web page in a new tab and a Ctrl-click would open in the locked tab.

2. Make it so that clicking on another Info Item opens that item in a new tab

These options could be added to the Trees (more) panel in the Hoisting / Favorites / Title locking section.

Alternatively, these could be added as options in the tab's context menu so that they could be applied to any tab, regardless of whether or not the title is locked. Ideally, you would set the default behavior for locked tabs in the settings, but still have the option to override for individual tabs.
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:43 AM
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2. Make it so that clicking on another Info Item opens that item in a new tab

Big +1 for that.

When I lock a tab, I would also like it to lock the displayed info item so it cannot change to another info item.
To me it is very confusing to have several locked tabs open and then find that a couple of hours ago I accidentally opened a different item into one of those locked tabs. I honestly can't understand why it would ever be desirable to have a different info item opened into a locked tab; isn't that just plain confusing?

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Mark.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:28 PM
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By design, only the tab's title is locked when Tab | Lock Title is performed. You can still navigate elsewhere and return to the locked item via Tab | Go to Locked Item.

I personally think it would be confusing to prevent selecting another item (or open a new tab anytime another item was selected) in a locked tab, but we will also consider adding an option for that.
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:06 PM
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Great, thanks. Yeah, I use 'go to locked item' all the time, but it is always when I forget to open a new tab first when selecting a different item in the data explorer.

Mark.
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Old 08-10-2011, 03:46 PM
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I honestly can't understand why it would ever be desirable to have a different info item opened into a locked tab
I use hoisted folders or saved searches in a locked tab. I use the Child Items pane to sort them, and may then select one to see the item's details. So uisng the GTD database sample, I would have hoisted locked tabs for Active GTD, Projects, Reference, etc. The locked titles tell me what 'view' of the database is in this tab.

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Old 08-11-2011, 03:19 PM
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I use hoisted folders or saved searches in a locked tab. I use the Child Items pane to sort them, and may then select one to see the item's details. So uisng the GTD database sample, I would have hoisted locked tabs for Active GTD, Projects, Reference, etc. The locked titles tell me what 'view' of the database is in this tab.
So basically you use locked tabs as a workaround to UR only allowing one tree in a database. The locked tabs provide a virtual tree from a portion of the larger tree, and as long as you don't 'unhoist' then the locked tab title makes sense.

That is absolutely wonderful! Thank you so much for posting that idea! With one simple posting you have just eliminated two of my 3 biggest gripes about UR.
  1. There can be one and only one tree in a database.
  2. It is possible to lock the title of a note, but not the note itself.
  3. There are no options to export a database into anything that is professional enough looking to actually present to anybody.

For item #1 I have been using TreeDbNotes, since it allows any number of trees in a database. Now you have shown me a way to create a virtual tree in UR that takes a bit to set up, but is almost as good as a separate tree. Yay!

Item #2 -- since there was only one tree, I had been using the locking of a note title as a way to keep notes open from various areas of the database (things I'm working on at the time). It was always extremely frustrating to me to have the body of a locked note change when I poked around in the database! Now with the hoist-and-lock, I no longer see a need at all to lock a single note. Lock a branch of the tree instead, genious!

Item #3 -- ok, for now I'll have to contunue using TreeDbNotes for this one. Hopefully soon some professional looking export options will be available for UR.

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Thank you so much $bill! Before now hoisting had been just a way for me to avoid the clutter of seeing the entire tree at once; I had never thought of combining hoisting with locking a tab. Amazing the things that can be learned by hanging around the forum; you have just increased my productivity in UR tremendously!

Mark.
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:34 PM
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You can take away my vote for an option to lock the item along with the tab. $bill just gave me a totally new use for a locked tab; a new view into the tree itself instead of simply a single note within the tree. I doubt I'll ever use a locked tab for trying to lock a single note again.

Ok, now looking in the 'tree (more)' options I see "Hoist tree when locking tab title or going to a locked item". I now see the use in that; never did before.

Thanks,
Mark.

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Old 08-11-2011, 03:48 PM
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See Tools | Options | Trees (More) | Hoist tree when locking tab title or going to a locked item.
http://www.kinook.com/UltraRecall/Ma...viordialog.htm
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